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I am currently a level 23 player..close to level 24. I now have almost every dragon in my park except for moon dragon (which I think I just successfully bred...will know in 47 hrs) and a few other seasonal dragons I can't get (Bone, Reindeer, Love, and Leap Year) because I started the game around the end of February. I have 4 islands and the epic breeding island. ALL of my dragons...all 100 of them are level 10 dragons.

Per my calculations, I need to feed each dragon about 640,000 treats to level them from 10 to 15. Right now, I have 32 earth dragons...(among 70 other dragons of different elements) so say I create 18 more...no problem..that's only 180K in treats.

Then I have to level up 50 earth dragons from lv10 to lv15. That is 50 dragons X 640,000 treats which is roughly about 30 million treats.

Assuming, I hit level 30...and have 11 large treat farms...and can afford to spend a lot of $$$ on Sarjin peppers which create 10K of food in 1 minute for 500K. So, here I am spending 5.5 million every minute to create 110,000 treats...I would need approcimately 5 hours and 1.5 billion to just level up my earth dragons from level 10 to 15!

The highest $$$ I ever had in the game was maybe 40-45 million....and even if I sold all of my dragons, habiats, decorations, and etc...I don't even think I clear close to 500 million.

My park can generate about 5-6 million a day if I wisely breed/sell magnetic dragons and earn a lot of $$$ by tapping habiats all day (I generate 300Kish per 2 hrs..but have to tap to earn beyond max earnings)....it would take me about 300 days give or take to raise 1.5B to just level up my earth dragons!!! Not to even mention the other elements (yeah, I know I can level up hybrids instead to save $$$...but the point is that you still have to level up 50 dragons from level 1-15 at least 2-3 times because of contrasting elements...meaning 4.5-5B or 1-2 years of your time).

Honestly, I am leaning towards giving up and just hacking my app so I get unlimited food, $$$, and gems. I mean..what is left for me in Dragonvale? I own every decoration...every island possible (except for the last 2), every dragon (except 3-4 mentioned above), etc... all that is left for me is the shrine challenge and it only puts an orb or a crown on the top of my dragons....

Thoughts?

DragonValeAddictx 22:50, April 6, 2012 (UTC)DragonValeAddictx

{C}There is a few threads about shrines on this wiki's other forum that might help you. http://w11.zetaboards.com/dragonvale/topic/7713494/1/ http://w11.zetaboards.com/dragonvale/topic/7733709/1/#new
D.S.Day 18:37, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Swablueme 08:56, May 2, 2012 (UTC): Just to clear up a few myths about hacking/jailbreaking:

  1. You cannot hack dragon breeds at all. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying. However, you can hack gems and buy dragons that are currently available.
  2. You cannot hack without jailbreaking. Anything like a 'hack tool' is a blatant attempt to put malware on your computer. Technically hackers can create hack tools for non jailbroken devices, but it would be nigh impossible.
  3. Jailbreakers cannot send you 99999999999 gems through the friends list. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying.
  4. Jailbreaking is legal as the US Copyright office recognises a DMCA exemption, though the applications/tweaks utilised to carry out the cheating is questionable.
  5. Jailbreaking takes two minutes to carry out and is also reversible via a restore on iTunes. Contrary to popular belief, restoring your iDevice will remove every trace of the jailbreak, unless you are extremely tech savvy.
  6. Say you hacked 9999999 gems on your jailbroken device. (it would probably take you two hours to get that many gems, by the way, unless you do it my way which takes two seconds). If you restored your jailbroken device and opened Dragonvale, those 99999999 gems technically will still be there.

Gems were a currency solely intended to profit the company as the game works on the freemium business modell.


I would like to point out that DVWiki Staff, BFS and Apple are strongly opposed to jailbreaking, hacking and any form of software modification. Furthermore, when you sign up for an iTunes account, you agree not to modify Apple software in any way, through hacking, jailbreaking or otherwise. If you hack, jailbreak or otherwise modify the software on any Apple device, you are in breach of a legally binding contract, which may result in the termination of your Apple ID and/or a fine, depending on your country's and state's legislation. It also affects the developer's bottom line, if they go out of business, no more DV...

Crocodile1302 09:35, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

[[Special:Contributions/121.220.64.131|Swablueme 11:53, May 2, 2012 (UTC)]] 10:21, May 2, 2012 (UTC) Evidently you have not read the Copyright Office's exemption to the DMCA:

The Librarian of Congress has announced the classes of works subject to the exemption from the prohibition against circumvention of technological measures that control access to copyrighted works. Persons making non-infringing uses of the following six classes of works will not be subject to the prohibition against circumventing access controls (17 U.S.C. § 1201(a)(1)) until the conclusion of the next rulemaking . . .

Computer programs that enable wireless telephone handsets to execute software applications, where circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling interoperability of such applications, when they have been lawfully obtained, with computer programs on the telephone handset.

Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that enable used wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telecommunications network, when circumvention is initiated by the owner of the copy of the computer program solely in order to connect to a wireless telecommunications network and access to the network is authorized by the operator of the network


To clarify, I never suggested that jailbreaking or hacking was illegal or punishable by law. I said that by doing such you are in breach of a legally binding contract between Apple and yourself, which was entered into by agreeing to the iTunes terms and conditions. Breach of contract (defined as Failure of a party (not having a legal excuse) to perform in accordance with a promise made.) is a serious offence in many countries.

Crocodile1302 10:30, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


You stated that Apple may fine a user for jailbreaking. How can they fine a user for jailbreaking if they're not supported by the law? By fining somebody illegally? Apple cannot fine a user as the Library of Congress has determined that jailbreakers are not subject to copyright lawsuits. You say that a breach of a contract is defined by a failure of a party without a legal excuse. Well, there is an explicit DMCA exemption allowing jailbreaking. You suggest that you never suggested hacking OR jailbreaking is punishable under the law, then strongly suggest that it is a serious offence in many countries. Swablueme 11:53, May 2, 2012 (UTC)


If you read carefully, you'll notice I said that breach of contract is punishable by a fine, not by Apple, quite obviously, but by a court of law in certain countries. Also, to reiterate, I said that a breach of contract is a serious offence in many countries.

Crocodile1302 11:00, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

... I don't see how a breach of contract and the consequent fine in general is particularly relevant. Breaches in contracts range from a friendship on a personal level, to an international level such as a law.

But I digress. What Apple can actually do to jailbreakers is void the device's warranty. Jailbreaking in some ways makes the device less secure. This is particularly true of people who install SSH and don't change the root password. However, in some ways it makes the device more secure, as patches for exploits are provided for fairly quickly and unofficially by hackers/third party coders/third party developers.

And like the terms of service state, Apple is not responsible for any software instabilities you have. Apple was not joking when they said the device becomes prone to crashing. This is often due when installing modifications or upgrading features such as Cydia that can stick your device in a bootloop. It might be infrequent, but it may and can occur if you're particularly unlucky.

Primarily ethical, moral or reasons for convenience are why you should not hack.

However, I suspect that the tweaks used to GAIN the in app purchase can also be easily used to GAIN your credit card details among other personal information. Apple is particularly bad at preventing free Apps accessing your personal details and datamining, but third party tweaks which have NOT been screened are potentially worse and potentially more compromising in terms of your economic security.

Also, don't believe for one second that just because I argue you cannot be fined or have your account terminated for jailbreaking, that the DV devs cannot ban your account. The two primary methods of banning accounts are: IP bans and UDID bans. UDIDs are unique for devices. Apple recently made it harder for apps to access your UDID, but such hacking is very obvious and leaves you very open to bans. IP bans are a blanket ban on all devices connected to the same IP.

These are all considerations you must make as an intelligent and discerning user.

Swablueme 11:53, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like there is a lot of guessing here about what breach of contract is or how it's handled. At least in the U.S. there is no fine nor is it in all actuality a crime. It's a civil matter and for anyone to lose money over it the innocent party (in this case Apple) would have to sue. The fact that jail breaking is allowed under the law makes no difference and in no way prejudices Apple's right to take action for the breach of contract. This is no different than when I sign a non disclosure agreement in my work. It's perfectly legal for me to go around blabbing about what I'm working on but I've signed a contract saying I wouldn't do that. If I do then I'm in breach of contract and open to be sued and of course fired on the spot. Apple likewise has the option to sue and if they choose to revoke your Apple ID. It is stated rather plainly that they will terminate your account without notice for any violation of the agreement. As such if they catch you jailbreaking it is possible they will terminate your Apple ID and they'd have every right to do so because you agreed to it. We all agreed not to jailbreak and we all agreed to the punishment for doing so. If Apple does find out and does decide to do something about it then you're left without a leg to stand on

Jrocket97 (talk) 20:55, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

All questions of legality aside, where's the acheivement in hacking? I take pride in the work I've put into my dragon park to make in among the best non-hacked ones. If I were to hack my park to get those gold shrines a little faster, there would be no sense of accomplishment, because they weren't legitimately obtained. If you hack, there's simply no acheivement in doing anything in dragonvale any more, because it is obtained through hacking. You've stuck to your guns this long, might as well stick it out til then end.

Oops, didn't realize how old this was when I stumbled across it. Sorry if I necrobumped.

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